Feeding Frenzy Support Now gives minions from supported skills 25% chance to grant Feeding Frenzy to you on hit at gem level 1, up to 44% at gem level 20 (previously 25% at all gem levels). No longer causes minions from supported skills to deal more damage while you have Feeding Frenzy. if the minions won't deal more damage while have feeding frenzy, why do we need that skill? did they actually made the skill useless, or i got it wrong? thank you Last bumped on Mar 11, 2020, 1:37:27 PM | Posted by Ofirdr78 on Mar 11, 2020, 5:00:33 AM |
' Still the only way to get aggressive minion ai, which is how most minions should be by default. Basically they make minions a 5 link to get the proper ai. There's no powercreep here. Creep implies it's slow and could be overlooked, this is a full out sprint. | Posted by cpurdy777 on Mar 11, 2020, 5:03:42 AM |
They still get the movement speed and attack speed. Agree on the aggressive thing though, it's annoying to waste a gem slot on that. Maybe they should do away with the movement and attack speed, and change Feeding Frenzy buff to make minions aggressive. That way you dont need to waste a socket on every non-golem minion. | Posted by Asmosis on Mar 11, 2020, 5:07:10 AM |
Posted by blesedOne on Mar 11, 2020, 6:48:40 AM | |
Link FF to any Golem +Maim and you get the global benefit of Aggro and Attack Speed for all other minions. | Posted by ArisFuser on Mar 11, 2020, 7:03:17 AM |
' Only the bonus to supported minions got removed, that means the one Line on the gem that reads: (1) 'Minions from Supported Skills deal (5-14)% more Damage while you have Feeding Frenzy' Players will still get feeding frenzy buff which is a global effect that gives the following: (2) 'While you have the Feeding Frenzy buff, all of your minions have 10% more minion damage, 15% increased movement speed, 15% increased attack speed and 15% increased cast speed' So that means that if you used feeding frenzy as a support on your main damage skill you will be losing up to 14% more damage (at gem level 20) with that skill If you used feeding frenzy on a secondary minion (stone golem for example), you will still get the global bonus (2) on your main skill too Hope that clarified it for you Last edited by smichal52 on Mar 11, 2020, 12:34:29 PM | Posted by smichal52 on Mar 11, 2020, 12:31:11 PM |
Still a big nerf, together with the skeleton nerf. You need the agressive at skeletons to make them teleport. Otherwise clear speed is, ahm, a bit weak. | Posted by Llyrain on Mar 11, 2020, 12:48:06 PM |
' How do you mean.. 'weak' My highest level character last season was a Necromancer at level 95. The nerf feels very justified and warranted. You use FF on secondary minions anyway, so what issue do you take with that? Just link it to your Carrion Golem and slash away. Besides, minimum investment skellies dealing millions of damage was just OP. Try the new spectres if you are unhappy with skellies. Have some fun. My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/DarkCrusade3 My Twitch: https://twitch.tv/artcrusader ED Beastmode-Guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2606026 Dominating Blow Guardian: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2780644 | Posted by ArtCrusade on Mar 11, 2020, 12:50:43 PM |
' Might be a bit of a hassle, but you could try a few tricks, like using feeding frenzy for clear, and swapping to DeathMark for tougher bosses Deathmark should be much better for both AI and Damage (for single target) than feeding frenzy was pre-nerf | Posted by smichal52 on Mar 11, 2020, 1:04:09 PM |
' Yes, we get so lazy that we lose sight of the fact that we should do more gem swapping between mob clearing and boss single targeting. 'You've got to grind, grind, grind at that grindstone...' Necessity may be the mother of invention, but poor QoP in PoE is the father of frustration. The perfect solution to fix Trade Chat: www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2247070 | Posted by Arrowneous on Mar 11, 2020, 1:37:27 PM |
So the Feeding Frenzy buff, as of Delirium, will only affect the player. That I get but there is no description on the gem saying what that actual buff is any more. Honestly, I think most of us used it as intended... to buff our minions into a feeding frenzy to do more damage. Our minions did our damage for us so that we pretty much didn't have to do much. Now we have an undefined buff that our minions place on just ourselves that, I get it, causes us to do more damage ourselves but I guess my question is... how much of a buff is it? Is it the 5-14% buff that our minions used to get to do? Do we get the speed and cast increase as well or no? I don't mind it being nerfed but I would like to know by how much and wether it is worth using at all now and if it is worth using, is it worth using for an army of minions or better of used with a melee or ranged type adding in a few golems to buff their offense/defense capabilities. I appreciate any insight. I look forward to delirium. I actually took off two days of work for the first time in years lol. Of course I have to paint a room too hahah. Último bump em 13 de mar de 2020 07:34:55 | Postado por beodawn1 em 12 de mar de 2020 17:25:45 |
It still gives the damage boost to all minions while you have Feeding Frenzy buff. 10% more minion dmg, 15% move, cast & attack speed. Just that the supported minion doesn't get the added more dmg anymore. | Postado por imanubcake em 12 de mar de 2020 17:30:40 |
try to play zombie without it they are far too painfully passive and stupid and low coverage to deal with, but if you can bear it somehow, put feeding frenzy in a secondary minion since they will still benefit from the buff on you even if a different minion is triggering it is insane to have to sacrifice a link for decent AI. feeding frenzy should be their default behavior. What FF should do is give them like leap slam or some crap, like how skeles get Dash. Última edição por Gutterflower em 12 de mar de 2020 18:11:53 | Postado por Gutterflower em 12 de mar de 2020 18:10:13 |
Try to play any Zombie, Spectre or even Skeleton minion-setup without it as one of the 5 supports and youll see, that the AI is abyssmal without being set to 'aggressive'. Not a fan of a mandatory support gem being nerfed into oblivion. The buff to proc chance is just a slap to the face ontop, since its worthless. Also, yea, why not have a tooltip to show newer players what the support gem actually does? | Postado por HerrImHimmel em 12 de mar de 2020 18:26:03 |
Eaven if FF would only let minion be agressive, with no dmg at all, it would still be a viable gem. Feel lucky you still habe the Attack, and movementspeed. SB | Postado por SuperBrother1 em 12 de mar de 2020 19:32:51 |
' The feeding frenzy buff only ever applied to the player. | Postado por Asmosis em 12 de mar de 2020 19:34:39 |
I didn't use it on skellies last league, you recast them often enough and put them where you want them that it wasn't needed. Zombies on the other hand... | Postado por jbabel1012 em 12 de mar de 2020 19:38:59 |
I played skels ALOT the last two leagues. The dash ability that skels get when linked to feeding frenzy is HUGE for clear speed. Just another nerf to skels/zombies. (Zombie AI without FF is abysmal) Spectres tho...it depends on the spectre. I found slave drivers to do fine without FF. There are 300+ new spectres, so I am sure there will be some who have default AI's that are agressive and do good dps. | Postado por Odif em 12 de mar de 2020 20:24:39 |
'then it is a buff. thought it was a nerf because i thought it only gave it to minions who get the feeding frenzy buff not to all minions who had feeding frenzy? Hi! i'm high right now and who are you? | Postado por satanttin em 12 de mar de 2020 20:33:50 |
' The gem used to give supported minions a 'more' damage multiplier and the chance for them to give you the 'Feeding Frenzy' buff on hit. While you have that buff, all of your minions deal 10% more damage and have 15% increased over all speed. As of 3.10 the gem will no longer give the supported minions a more damage multiplier. You still get the FF buff, the buff still works the same and the minimum aggro range is still set to 70. Got it? | Postado por HerrImHimmel em 12 de mar de 2020 20:49:12 |